I think that's overly simplistic. The question is not, IMHO, "Roanoke or not." Like I said, Roanoke is less than optimal too.
A more broad discussion needs to be held. What are we trying to accomplish? Where is the best place to do that? Is the desire to make it easy for people to attend? Should there be events besides a church service?
We're a large community - it needs to be a large, inclusive discussion and process.
Save EMS said:Are you for keeping a permanent memorial in Roanoke or against it? That is all this comes down to. If you are for it then I welcome you to the battle and look forward to the energy you bring to the debate. If you are against it I will respect your opinion as our efforts move forward.
I have to throw in with those that advocate DC. Let's face it, no one is going to fly to Roanoke or Colorado Springs just to see the EMS Memorial (except on induction day). Put it in DC and it's a place that people will put on their list of places to see. And those with almost no knowledge of EMS will stumble upon it.
I've ridden into Roanoke for the past 4 years with the bike ride. Each year I am stunned the the bikers and support make up the majority of people in that church that aren't specifically connected with an honoree.
The NEMSMS has been in existence for 17 years and almost nobody in EMS knows about it. Now they want to move it and separating it from EMS Week & the Memorial Day weekend. This is just my opinion, but this move will result in the NEMSMS fading into the background and becoming completely insignificant. Nothing against Co. Springs but the decision to move there smacks of money changing hands.
The one question I forgot to askin roanoke is WHY? they moved to CO? Was there a legitimate reason im really curious. I am going to research the memorial site and see if I find anything in the mean time.
In the business world everything is political, this is evident by the ties one private industry has with one memorial board member. The members of the memorial may not be willing to answer our questions but I bet they will reply to the Attorney Generals office. Like I said, it may not do any good but I'm at least going to fight for it.
Save EMS said:In the business world everything is political, this is evident by the ties one private industry has with one memorial board member. The members of the memorial may not be willing to answer our questions but I bet they will reply to the Attorney Generals office. Like I said, it may not do any good but I'm at least going to fight for it.
I have seen you reference your supposed difficulty in getting a reply from us but to the best of my knowledge, you have attempted to contact us exactly once, at 20:55 on Sunday evening. I have searched my records and can find no other inquiries from you. In response to that email, a 3 page letter responding to all of your questions and all but one of your comments was sent to you at 15:41 today. In other words, by the close of business the next business day.
I can only suggest sir, that if you would like questions answered, you have to actually ask them first.
Kevin M. Agard
National EMS Memorial Service
Mr Laws (If that is indeed your real name),
After completely reading your pages here and on Facebook, it has become obvious to me that when you do not actually know something, you will make something up that fits your world view rather than research the truth.
Please allow me to correct some factual errors:
1. Roanoke is NOT the birthplace of EMS. It was the home of Julian Stanley Wise and the location of the founding (by Mr. Wise) of the first volunteer rescue squad in the United States in 1928. If you want to identify the origins of EMS in the United States, you'd have to go back the the horse drawn ambulances operated by hospital around the county in the 1880s. This takes nothing away from Mr. Wise. As a former member of the Julian Stanley Wise Foundation's board, I am fully aware of his accomplishments and their import. But it remains that your assertion is factually incorrect.
2. The choice of Colorado Springs was originally announce at the 2008 Memorial Service. That would be last year, not last weekend.
3. As stated in my letter to you, The Memorial Service was never held in conjunction with EMS Week. It was held Memorial Day Weekend. It was simply a nice happenstance that the two coincided 3/4 of the time.
4. Our change of date had nothing whatsoever to do with Colorado Springs. They couldn't care less when during the year we held it. And while the change of date might have been mentioned during this year's Service, nobody said anything about that change having to do with COS. Anyone who wishes to do so may verify this for themselves as the recording of the service will be available in a few weeks on DVD.
Anyone wishing information on the National EMS Memorial Service may contact us at info (at) nemsms.org. Contrary to Mr, Laws contentions, we actually do answer our email.
Kevin M. Agard
National EMS Memorial Service.
I think at this juncture it might help if everyone took a deep breath and toned down the rhetoric just a bit. I agree that posting anonymously, while somewhat annoying, does allow a certain amount of unwarranted freedom, but at this point it's just confusing the issue. How about we all just follow the advice of Dr. David Nelson and "assume (and act with) positive intentions."
I agree with Skip's original posting. As a Coloradan, I don't see the purpose of placing the Memorial in the Springs. It's not a premier geographical position in anyone's (well, anyone other than NORAD's) book. Their airport has few direct flights, and driving there is a pain for everyone. They have no major media outlets, and the Memorial date will always play second fiddle to the Air Force Academy graduation and football schedule, US Olympic Center events, the IAFF schedule, the Professional Rodeo schedule, the State Fair, which overflows into the Springs, and whatever other events occur as the result of having a major US Army base in your backyard.
Having participated in the National EMS Memorial Bike Ride for 3 years now, I definitely see the advantage of having a Memorial on the East Coast, preferably in the DC area. Lets face it; DC is the center of gravity of the political and media world. When it was announced that the Memorial would be in the Springs, the story was mentioned in the Denver and Springs papers, and I believe it was a 20 second TV news story seen by maybe 150,000 people in Colorado. When one of the Bike Ride's support vehicles was broken into into at a hotel in Annapolis MD last year, it was covered extensively in the DC media, on every local TV and radio news channel. This story was seen by millions of people, and resulted in donations covering more than the cost of the stolen equipment, not to mention the good will that the story of the group, and the publicity regarding EMS LODD deaths, engendered. This year, the story was covered on CNN. We, as an industry, will never be able to develop this publicity in Colorado, and let's face it, that's what this is largely about. I believe Jenifer Frennete, President of the Ride, can provide information regarding how succesful Ride participants (in spandex, nonetheless!) were at directly lobbying their congress members for support of the PSOB bill while we were in DC. These very positive events will never occur with this memorial held in Colorado Springs.
I don't believe anyone involved in the decision to move the Memorial to the Springs acted with anything but the very best of intentions. It would be ridiculous to think this group of volunteers acted otherwise. I'm disheartened to see others making this assumption. I do think, however, that the decision would have benefitted from a more open public discussion. I hope this discussion continues, and all involved will remember to conduct it respectfully.
I will now crawl back into my cave,
Summit County Ambulance Service
President, North Central EMS Cooperative