Todd, I would still like to see these documents. I have looked back through this thread and do not see them. If you are going to drop names you really should be prepared to provide the proof. Please either post a specific website URL or full citation of the study. Thanks.
Thanks Todd, a very informative paper.
I see some issues, with this study.
Whether supine or seated, the measurements were done with the collar only. Without securing the "model" to a spine board or other extrication device, there will be movement. I realize the study was to measure motion, but have more accurate figures, measurements should be taken as they are actually done in the field.
"Once the collar was applied, the model remained supine... The model then moved to a standard wooden chair and sat upright"....
This is suspect because there will always be a difference due to body movement when getting into the chair, just as there would be going from the chair to a supine position.
And lastly, the study was geared toward athletic trainers,
"certified athletic trainers (ATCs) and on-site medical staffs are unlikely to have much real-life experience managing a cervical spine– injured athlete".
I agree with that statement, if we are only talking about athletic injuries. Depending on the service area, most of us see actual cervical spine injuries almost daily, sometimes several a day. I am in no way belittling athletic trainers. I've worked with many exceptional ones, but I doubt that the 25% is accurate in the EMS setting, at least not the stats I've seen.
Todd Webb said:Here is the web sites I was given by my office to where the statistics came from on a total of 25% of cervical spine injuries occur after the initial injury, termed secondary injury, either during transport or in the early course of treatment.’’.
You may access the full article if you click on the link: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=419507. Hope this is what you were looking for.
Michael Fraley said:Todd, I would still like to see these documents. I have looked back through this thread and do not see them. If you are going to drop names you really should be prepared to provide the proof. Please either post a specific website URL or full citation of the study. Thanks.
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